{"id":35671,"date":"2018-01-24T11:50:00","date_gmt":"2018-01-24T16:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/?p=35671"},"modified":"2018-01-26T12:08:33","modified_gmt":"2018-01-26T17:08:33","slug":"ben-stiller-takes-on-we-live-in-public-jonah-hill-to-play-josh-harris","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/the-bomb\/2018\/01\/24\/ben-stiller-takes-on-we-live-in-public-jonah-hill-to-play-josh-harris\/","title":{"rendered":"~BEN STILLER takes on &#8216;WE LIVE IN PUBLIC&#8217; \/ JONAH HILL to play JOSH HARRIS . ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT . . came out this past weekend at SUNDANCE 2018 !!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Ben-Stiller-to-direct-WE-LIVE-IN-PUBLIC.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/Ben-Stiller-to-direct-WE-LIVE-IN-PUBLIC.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"476\" height=\"576\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-35674\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nIMAGE: screengrab <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiewire.com\/2018\/01\/ben-stiller-jonah-hill-we-live-in-public-sundance-2018-1201919578\/\">Indiewire<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;ONDIE TIMONER&#8217;S . . . 2009 SUNDANCE GRAND JURY PRIZE-WINNING DOCUMENTARY, &#8216;WE LIVE IN PUBLIC&#8217;, will become a feature film directed by BEN STILLER, starring JONAH HILL as JOSH HARRIS, the dot-com millionaire who carried out a <strong>surveillance<\/strong> experiment with 150 residents at a Manhattan hotel amid Y2K panic.<br \/>\nBOLD FILMS will finance the project, which Timoner will produce with Stiller&#8217;s RED HOUR FILMS.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>read: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indiewire.com\/2018\/01\/ben-stiller-jonah-hill-we-live-in-public-sundance-2018-1201919578\/\">BEN STILLER TO DIRECT JONAH HILL in film adaption of &#8216;WE LIVE IN PUBLIC&#8217; \/ Indiewire, JAN 20, 2018<\/a><\/p>\n<p>wow, a lot of people fell off their chairs &#8211;  when they heard that !!<\/p>\n<p>JONAH HILL . . portraying Josh &#8211; is brilliant.<br \/>\nI heard ALFREDO  MARTINEZ told someone, if he had <strong>his<\/strong> dibs, he&#8217;d want BENICIO DEL TORO to play him.<br \/>\nsweet &#8211; it is.<\/p>\n<p>and, in typical, &#8216;provocative JOSH-mode&#8217;, which is saying it nicely, Josh immediately emailed me to ask: who I wanted to play myself ? &#038; my real bad hubby, SIMON CERIGO, RIP.<br \/>\nwho brought his girlfriend along for the ride, nice move &#8211; Simon. <\/p>\n<p>somebody else emailed me &#038; said they hope it&#8217;s gonna be a . . comedy ?!!<\/p>\n<p>I hope, not !!<br \/>\nit&#8217;s already jam-packed with characters and chaos up the wazoo . .<br \/>\ninstead, I hope they play it very straight-up, close to the chest, real down-low, and serious. totally against the grain. I hope they play it . . Shakespearean.<br \/>\neven though it was totally far-out, fast &#038; furious, not to mention wildly hardcore, wildly illegal,  eventually getting shut down by the NYPD, the FDNY &#038; FEMA, all 3 !! the personal cost of this visionary quest, was harsh. many of the &#8216;WE LIVE IN PUBLIC&#8217; participants, including their leader Josh, were burned by their up-close brush  &#8211; with the . .  &#8216;future&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>taking it down to a very personal level, thanks to 24\/7 computer-archived surveillance, I literally got to see my so-called hubby throw me under the bus.<\/p>\n<p>on the bigger picture, Josh . . might be now be called, among a small group of cult cognizanti, the &#8216;father of social networking&#8217;, and the . .  &#8216;Andy Warhol of the web&#8217;, but his prey-driven compulsion to intuit &#038; uncover the potential of the new world of &#8216;online&#8217; . . for both the individual &#038; the culture at large, left him depleted, and broke $$$. the man who mined the social dynamic of the vast unknown that was the web in 1999-2000, was the prob the first to fall victim to it&#8217;s peculiar irony:  the great social universe vs. primal human personal needs fall-out.<\/p>\n<p>and, of course the biggest tragedy of all, is how the mainstream art world, just dropped the ball on the whole scene.  <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;hotel&#8221;, my foot . .  !!<br \/>\nit was in reality, 2 decrepit warehouse buildings, which Josh took over on Broadway at Leonard, on what was then, the outer fringes of sleepy Tribeca. it was <strong>open<\/strong> to the public &#8211; 24\/7. it was party central with free, free-flowing bars, lounges, dance parties, art exhibits &#038; art-in-the making \/ install &#038; site specific wips. there were hi-end tech and web gaming. the in-house crew, running the parties &#038; producing the shows, of which I was a part, wore custom EXPLODING SKY silk-screened work uniforms. we had a live-in 4 star chef cooking the meals, in the futuristic bubble dining room, that sat 100 easily. there was almost no security, despite being wired 24\/7 big-time for video, and definitely no fire escapes. just the way we like it. all up-close, &#038; in-your-face, wild &#038; free. with lots of early 90s start-up money getting thrown around, everywhere &#038; every which way. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;desperate&#8221;  . . ? I don&#8217;t think so.<br \/>\nJosh loved talent, esp. the &#8216;real real&#8217; !!<br \/>\npeople were making more money in those 2 weeks, then they had in the past 5 years.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;hotel&#8221;  . . ?  lordy !!<br \/>\nmore of an underground bunker &#8211; filled with underground artists, in 1999 there was <strong>NO <\/strong>Brooklyn, let alone the Bronx. downtown \/ including the LES was it, the low-rent land of the hardcore. no wonder, &#8216;QUIET&#8217; the huge millennial party that birthed &#8216;WE LIVE In PUBLIC&#8217;, exploded into chaos. and, . . brighter than light, insight. for an artist,  being there was the chance of a lifetime.<br \/>\nand, at the apex, there was .  Josh.<br \/>\nthe wonder boy multi-millionaire tech entrepreneur, with lots of money, but limited social skills, and  &#8216;Luvvy&#8217; the clown, his alter ego \/ sidekick  . . as maestro. the nerdy junior high school social scientist &#038; his inner bad boy \/ calling the shots. directing the games. <\/p>\n<p>if you could keep his fast moving attention, you were in. if you couldn&#8217;t &#8211; you were out.<br \/>\nif you could flow like mercury, and fly like a bee, all the better.<br \/>\nat &#8216;Quiet&#8217;, we lived in a communal space, which was a joke . .  because artists by nature, are so indie, so competitive &#038; plus we were all competing . . against each other for Josh&#8217;s time &#038; dough.<br \/>\nnon-stop game of musical chairs. <\/p>\n<p><strong>the one rule was:<\/strong> if you left the building, you could not come back. you were out.<br \/>\nsunlight. what&#8217;s sunlight ?<br \/>\npersonal life ? there was no personal life \/ there was only . . JOSH-LIFE !!<br \/>\nthat was it \/  that was the mind-set. that was the . . WEB.<br \/>\nor should I say, proto-WWW\/WEB.<\/p>\n<p>you may as well have been on a disco-balled space ship heading to Mars.<br \/>\nwhich was pretty much part of the original scenario from the get-go.<br \/>\n24\/7 surveillance didn&#8217;t come across as so bad. 24\/7 cameras, &#038; the we live in public mindset . .  wasn&#8217;t really the bad part. even when it was not just being recorded, but playing on screens live &#8211; everywhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong>it was more  . . <\/strong> the closed-circuit Josh \/ the mad social scientist\/artist &#038; his sidekick Luvvy the Clown  . . at the controls, running his &#8216;social experiment&#8217; \/ like some mad Wizard of Tech Oz, that was really <strong>what<\/strong> made for the intrepid partiers go off the rails.<br \/>\nand break down in tears.<br \/>\nJosh baited, and lured.<br \/>\n&#8220;Off to the Interrogation room&#8221; \/  yes .. there was a Nazi-like interrogation room,  was basically . .  a modern take on: &#8220;off with their heads, Alice&#8221; in Wonderland.<br \/>\nLuvvy had very little compassion. Josh had even less. the generous art patron had a double life.<\/p>\n<p>he could give, but he could just as easily pull the carpet right out from under you. that was actually an interesting departure for me\/  re: collectors who buy art like sheep. I gave him more credit for that, than many others did. bottomline for me was the: the real real survived. to live another day, maybe.<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t get me started.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;hotel&#8221; . . ?<br \/>\nwe bunked, piled on top of each other \/ a sleeping residence for 100, inspired by Japanese pod hotels. if you want to talk, &#8220;hotel&#8221;. what you really want to say is: beehive.<br \/>\nwhat you really want to consider, is the &#8216;singular&#8217; individual vs the web &#8216;community&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>and, so short story fast. in this way, Josh stumbled upon the . . FUTURE.<\/p>\n<p>it&#8217;s name was: SOCIAL NETWORKING.<br \/>\n&#038; it&#8217;s twin nano baby siblings, were . . self-recording, &#038; self-publishing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/WE-LIVE-IN-PUBLIC-COVER.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/WE-LIVE-IN-PUBLIC-COVER.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"404\" height=\"422\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-35682\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nthe dvd cover \/ logo for . . &#8216;WE LIVE IN PUBLIC&#8217;, 2009.<br \/>\nthe seeds of social media \/ networking . . were sown in a wild underground bunker party thrown by a prey-driven social scientist tech entrepreneur, JOSH HARRIS &#038; played-out by the wildest bad-ass underground artists that he could find, to ring in the Millennial\/ year 2000 &#038; boldly usher in the unknown potential of the computer, which at that time, nobody envisioned further than spread sheets, emails, writing that could auto-correct without white-out, and .. porn.<\/p>\n<p>funny, how well it cleaned up !!<\/p>\n<p>9 years later &#8211;  with the documentary, the cover image says it all.<br \/>\napparently, new rules of politically-correct \/ tamped-down social behavior had to evolve to catch up.<br \/>\n well, that was 2009.<\/p>\n<p>it&#8217;s now, 2018, only another short 9 year interval later, and seems . .<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re only humans after all, and . .  man can even our President &#8211; let loose on twitter.<\/p>\n<p>not to mention:<br \/>\nfake news, bullying, scams, &#038; au contraire: awareness, knowledge.mass information. bad warnings of in-coming missiles. on your phone, at breakfast. in Hawaii.<br \/>\nthe sheer availability of information has actually out-run the available solutions.<br \/>\nthe new power of group voices have super-ceded the courts. the court of opinion is like an orphan who has finally found their mother 20 years later.<br \/>\nmass waves of protests \/ based on communal words, sentiments, and hashtags. hopefully for the good \/ abuse victims getting strength to speak out in numbers. rappers &#038; wrestlers getting taken down by bad behavior endless personal content. reality. IG stories, little kids watching DIY YouTubes of other little kids opening endless tiny &#8216;presents&#8217;. AI. the power of the random, the power of the mass. from digital artist platforms archiving exhibits for eternity, to just plain ole renting your apt on Craigs list. <\/p>\n<p>chaos ? desperation ? &#8216;Quiet&#8217;, &#8216;We Live In Public&#8217; \/ year 2000 in an underground bunker in NYC.<br \/>\nsurely you  . . jest.<\/p>\n<p>the real real artists &#8211; are always going to win. <\/p>\n<p>I hope this movie crushes, absolutely <strong>crushes<\/strong>, the mainstream art world in this town,  and the clueless art critics who missed the ball on &#8216;QUIET&#8217; &#8211; even though it was the biggest &#038; most important art party \/ installation this town has ever seen. <\/p>\n<p>yeah, DUDE:  BEN STILLER, KEEP IT . . SHAKESPEAREAN. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT . . came out this past weekend at SUNDANCE 2018 !! 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