{"id":21930,"date":"2014-07-14T12:19:11","date_gmt":"2014-07-14T17:19:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/?p=21930"},"modified":"2014-07-14T14:46:39","modified_gmt":"2014-07-14T19:46:39","slug":"where-its-at-cinders-vs-170-suffolk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/the-bomb\/2014\/07\/14\/where-its-at-cinders-vs-170-suffolk\/","title":{"rendered":"~where it&#8217;s at, CINDERS &#038; 170 SUFFOLK  .  ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>give me INDIE, or give me &#8211; nothing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/cindersseaport.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/cindersseaport.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"cindersseaport\" width=\"600\" height=\"599\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21933\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/cindersseaport.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/cindersseaport-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/cindersseaport-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nCINDERS PROJECTS PRESENT:<br \/>\nDECADE OF DECADUNCE &#8211; CINDERS CELEBRATES 10 YEARS<br \/>\nCURATED BY STO LEN &#038; KELIE BOWMAN<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dossieroutpost.com\/events\/\">DOSSIER OUTPOST<\/a> &#8211; SOUTH STREET SEAPORT<br \/>\nthe show opened last THURS, JULY 10, 2014<br \/>\nHOURS: OPEN EVERY DAY FROM 12-7PM in JULY 2014<\/p>\n<p>so I am now facing the blogger&#8217;s worst nightmare, I <em>just<\/em> started writing up 170 SUFFOLK,  which ran MAY 31-JUNE 5, 2014, and then along comes CINDERS . .  with a summer show that is currently up and running, and so do I continue with 170 SUFFOLK, which is down &#8211; or do I jump to the present ?<br \/>\nand then go back to 170 SUFFOLK, cause that&#8217;s not falling thru the cracks, no matter what ?<br \/>\nI guess so.<\/p>\n<p>serves me right for comparing the 2 shows in the first place, and my BAD !!<br \/>\nas I remember the post &#8211; I believe CINDERS got the short end of the stick &#8211; something about local NYC kids being more grit !!!<br \/>\nwell guess there&#8217;s 2 sides to GRIT &#8211; after all.<\/p>\n<p>both are Indie group shows put on by artist curators \/ both are pop-ups, both are collective consciousnesses with no tangible brick &#038; mortar homes &#8211; hey, the whole world <em>IS<\/em> your oyster . . when you have talent.<br \/>\n170 SUFFOLK is relatively new to the scene, or, rather in manifesting it&#8217;s presence &#8211; their first real collective roaming exhibit &#8211; was 15 WARREN of this New Year&#8217;s 2014.<br \/>\nso they are celebrating their FIRST YEAR.<br \/>\nCINDERS is celebrating their 10th year.<br \/>\nyes, it&#8217;s true CINDERS represents a broader spectrum of artists, from all over, incl zines out of BERLIN (re-surgo), but esp of the states, while 170 SUFFOLK remains very much a New York City born  &#038; bred tight knit group.<br \/>\nand, yes while 170 SUFFOLK hits the metal with a harsh and gritty slash, in its own way CINDERS hits the &#8211; edge too, as in the &#8216;ashes&#8217; !!<br \/>\nyou know, through the flames &#8211; burn the ashes.<br \/>\ngrit = ashes. <\/p>\n<p>yeah, after I saw the Cinders show, yes I did make the opening &#8211; I had to re-work the math !!  <\/p>\n<p>and what I came up with . .  was really old knowledge: the yin and the yang.<\/p>\n<p>CINDERS&#8217; heat . . is about the earth, feelings and thoughts about the earth, and the way we live and where we are going . . <\/p>\n<p>170 SUFFOLK&#8217;s heat . . was more hard-pressed, combustible, politics driven.<\/p>\n<p>CINDERS&#8217;s heat . . was like skating, the skate&#8217;s blade racing along the far-most rim &#8211; or edge of the sun&#8217;s orb,  while 170 SUFFOLK, was like the harder edge, let&#8217;s say of a knife &#8211; or a metal rim. colder. more precise.<br \/>\nCINDERS is more dreamy, and 170 SUFFOLK is more hardcore.<br \/>\n2 sides of the coin. yin \/ yang<br \/>\nwith the rim of coin itself . .  being the cutting-edge. <\/p>\n<p>though seriously, it&#8217;s NOT just about content &#8211; it&#8217;s about style, it&#8217;s about: SENSORY SENSATION.<br \/>\n<strong>both<\/strong> shows lean heavily to the pictorial, narrative, and  far-out.<br \/>\nas opposed to the personal, or even sexual. there was not one naked, sexxxually charged image in either show. <\/p>\n<p>both shows were cutting edge &#8211; that is, coming down on . .  right now. both shows had the talent, and the excitement &#8211; that is sorely missing in the art world&#8217;s mainstream and more established streets.<\/p>\n<p>so,  let&#8217;s get on with the PIX &#8211; and I&#8217;m betting 170 SUFFOLK will still be relevant, even after the CINDERS pix finish, it&#8217;s just like one big circle, the fox chasing his tail.<br \/>\nthe mind chasing it&#8217;s dreams.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/170-SUFFOLK-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/170-SUFFOLK-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"170-SUFFOLK-\" width=\"488\" height=\"633\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21935\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/170-SUFFOLK-1.jpg 488w, https:\/\/www.artloversnewyork.com\/zine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/170-SUFFOLK-1-231x300.jpg 231w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 488px) 100vw, 488px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nopened SAT MAY 31, 2014 and ran thru JUNE 5, 2014.<br \/>\n170 SUFFOLK ST, CURATED by SEAN VEGEZZI, ABELINE COHEN &#038; ANDREW KASS.<\/p>\n<p>170 SUFFOLK was presented in a formal setting, well &#8211;  as formal as Indie gets !!<br \/>\nthe &#8216;borrowed&#8217; venue was a real estate deal that left open 2 weeks to put on a show, before the space changed hands. <\/p>\n<p>it was in the <strong>heart<\/strong> of the <strong>enemy<\/strong>, the Lower East Side, and it was gorgeous  &#8211; with high ceilings, exposed beams, even a skylight. rust, decay, entropy,  and even history were taken for granted, de-constructed elegance was the name of the game, there were only 13 artists &#8211; and everybody had plenty of space to to make their statements. from &#8216;found&#8217;, bold and graphic, to hyper-realism, SPENCER TULLIS had an &#8216;Egyptian&#8217; in a kind of time travel capsule . . to the supremely sublime: the out-of-town &#8216;trash&#8217;, does that fall under &#8211;  &#8216;realism&#8217; ? of TOMMY MALEKOFF to the poetic ramblings of CODY RANALDO and his &#8216;construction next door &#8211; from the large, the balance beam of KEEFE BUTLER, to the mini-mini flags of JACK SHANNON, to the empty, yet threatening, designated fenced-in space of SEAN VEGEZZI.<br \/>\nit was a very hard-core take-away.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;just kids&#8221; &#8211; ha, those famous last words reigned supreme, and came back like a glass-sharp frisbee to haunt the neighborhood naysayers !! <\/p>\n<p>CINDERS  . .  also popped up in the<strong> heart<\/strong> of <strong>enemy<\/strong> turf, the enemy in this case being the &#8216;tourist&#8217;. but you know what &#8211; art wins when the tourist comes in and buys a piece of work by BRIAN CHIPPENDALE, or anybody else in the CINDERS SHOW, I would even put it in the same sentence as that Central Park caper that Banksy pulled off, selling his work (for $60 each) to unsuspecting strollers.<\/p>\n<p>CINDERS, DECADE OF DECADUNCE, oh oh, look out  !!<br \/>\n. . . had more &#8211; well, humor !!<br \/>\nit was more about works on paper, drawing, and it was more like a taste, a &#8216;sampling&#8217;, than a full plate of serious statement &#8211; !! as per 170 SUFFOLK, but you know &#8211; all good.<br \/>\nboth venues made the most of what  &#8211; they had to work with.<\/p>\n<p>CINDERS has close to 100 artists on display, and the work was selling like hotcakes the night of the opening.<\/p>\n<p>I heard that sales were prevalent at 170 SUFFOLK, too.<\/p>\n<p>in a nutshell, it&#8217;s not about commercialism, it&#8217;s about talent.<br \/>\nrebel, rebel. against the status quo &#038; the big $$ galleries\/Artforum ho&#8217;s.<br \/>\nwhen the cutting edge talent can get the gigs\/venues, and make dough\/$$ outside the mainstream  &#8211; it&#8217;s a win , win.<br \/>\na bonafide: &#8216;scene&#8217;.<br \/>\nan underground scene &#8211; going nautical &#8211; as in topside. New York City style &#8211; as in, free style.<br \/>\nnow that&#8217;s what I call: grit. so, whether you like your eggs . .<br \/>\nsunny-side up as in CINDERS, or hardcore-boiled as in 170 SUFFOLK &#8211; they&#8217;re coming with a big side  . . . of g-r-i-t-s.<\/p>\n<p>PIX OF THE CINDERS OPENING &#8211; WILL BE POSTING SHORTLY, hopefully tomorrow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>give me INDIE, or give me &#8211; nothing. 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